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Sep 06, 2011 08:47

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Looking at comments from past alumnis it seems that top french business schools have difficult to deal with people who can't master the domestic language.
More, even if we are talking of high ranked BS they don't skip the general rule: "choose the program not the school!".
It must be depressing to choose a top school (spending 100000$) and discover that they prepare you mostly to become a consultant (and your dream/backgroun is finance)

http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/rankings/full_time_mba_profiles/hec.html

http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/rankings/full_time_mba_profiles/insead.html#
Looking at comments from past alumnis it seems that top french business schools have difficult to deal with people who can't master the domestic language. More, even if we are talking of high ranked BS they don't skip the general rule: "choose the program not the school!". It must be depressing to choose a top school (spending 100000$) and discover that they prepare you mostly to become a consultant (and your dream/backgroun is finance) http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/rankings/full_time_mba_profiles/hec.html http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/rankings/full_time_mba_profiles/insead.html#

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Sep 06, 2011 09:59

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Essec and indians...

http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/international-indian-mba-schools-accepting/46158-essec-mba-sept-2010-intake-3.html
Essec and indians... http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/international-indian-mba-schools-accepting/46158-essec-mba-sept-2010-intake-3.html

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Sep 07, 2011 06:52

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I think this is probably true for most places as well - and probably pretty appropriate - especially in France. A huge majority of the internships opportunites that ESSEC offers each year are in France - a country whose business is done in French. I don't think it's too much to ask for the students to at least learn the language.

Looking at comments from past alumnis it seems that top french business schools have difficult to deal with people who can't master the domestic language.
I think this is probably true for most places as well - and probably pretty appropriate - especially in France. A huge majority of the internships opportunites that ESSEC offers each year are in France - a country whose business is done in French. I don't think it's too much to ask for the students to at least learn the language. <blockquote>Looking at comments from past alumnis it seems that top french business schools have difficult to deal with people who can't master the domestic language.</blockquote>

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Sep 07, 2011 07:07

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Yesterday I visited ESSEC and CNAM, two Paris-region 'grande ecoles' with one-year AMBA-accredited MBA programmes. What really impressed me at CNAM was that foreign students (in particular I think the ones from Asia) all have some French before they arrive and also weekly business French lessons through the three timesters of the taught courses. On Fridays, when the part-time students some in to CNAM, they share some classes with the full-time students. That's also a very useful way of helping students to start to develop their soft skills for working with French managers.
Yesterday I visited ESSEC and CNAM, two Paris-region 'grande ecoles' with one-year AMBA-accredited MBA programmes. What really impressed me at CNAM was that foreign students (in particular I think the ones from Asia) all have some French before they arrive and also weekly business French lessons through the three timesters of the taught courses. On Fridays, when the part-time students some in to CNAM, they share some classes with the full-time students. That's also a very useful way of helping students to start to develop their soft skills for working with French managers.

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Sep 07, 2011 09:49

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Yesterday I visited ESSEC and CNAM, two Paris-region 'grande ecoles' with one-year AMBA-accredited MBA programmes. What really impressed me at CNAM was that foreign students (in particular I think the ones from Asia) all have some French before they arrive and also weekly business French lessons through the three timesters of the taught courses. On Fridays, when the part-time students some in to CNAM, they share some classes with the full-time students. That's also a very useful way of helping students to start to develop their soft skills for working with French managers.


Essec is very expensive (for global MBA it's 45000e... and doesn't even appear in mba ranking). Any reason? I exchanged some emails with them... they told me that my profile suits their requirements but when I asked for placement stats ... surprise... no more answers!!!!! :-)
<blockquote>Yesterday I visited ESSEC and CNAM, two Paris-region 'grande ecoles' with one-year AMBA-accredited MBA programmes. What really impressed me at CNAM was that foreign students (in particular I think the ones from Asia) all have some French before they arrive and also weekly business French lessons through the three timesters of the taught courses. On Fridays, when the part-time students some in to CNAM, they share some classes with the full-time students. That's also a very useful way of helping students to start to develop their soft skills for working with French managers.</blockquote> Essec is very expensive (for global MBA it's 45000e... and doesn't even appear in mba ranking). Any reason? I exchanged some emails with them... they told me that my profile suits their requirements but when I asked for placement stats ... surprise... no more answers!!!!! :-)

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Sep 07, 2011 09:40

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this is a quite interesting forum for people having a decent french

http://forum.boivigny.com/forum1.php?config=boivigny.inc&cat=23&page=1&subcat=&sondage=0&owntopic=0&trash=0&trash_post=0&moderation=0&new=0&nojs=0&subcatgroup=0
this is a quite interesting forum for people having a decent french http://forum.boivigny.com/forum1.php?config=boivigny.inc&cat=23&page=1&subcat=&sondage=0&owntopic=0&trash=0&trash_post=0&moderation=0&new=0&nojs=0&subcatgroup=0

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Sep 07, 2011 09:50

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It's strong school in France, and I wonder why it's not in the FT rankings -- maybe not enough students?

ESSEC is one of the top two grande ecoles for management (alongside HEC - http://www.essec.edu/press/rankings/national-rankings.html) and the FT always ranks it in the top 15 European schools (http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/essec-business-school/european-business-school-rankings-2010#european-business-school-rankings-2010). The ESSEC-Mannheim EMBA is in the top 25, I think. BusinessWeek ranks it, alphabetically, in the top 23 European programmes (http://images.businessweek.com/ss/10/03/0317_top_europe_business_schools/5.htm)
It's strong school in France, and I wonder why it's not in the FT rankings -- maybe not enough students? ESSEC is one of the top two grande ecoles for management (alongside HEC - http://www.essec.edu/press/rankings/national-rankings.html) and the FT always ranks it in the top 15 European schools (http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/essec-business-school/european-business-school-rankings-2010#european-business-school-rankings-2010). The ESSEC-Mannheim EMBA is in the top 25, I think. BusinessWeek ranks it, alphabetically, in the top 23 European programmes (http://images.businessweek.com/ss/10/03/0317_top_europe_business_schools/5.htm)

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Sep 08, 2011 06:24

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if i understand the rankings correctly, its the EMBA of essec that's rated.

Not the full time MBA.
if i understand the rankings correctly, its the EMBA of essec that's rated. Not the full time MBA.

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Sep 08, 2011 08:18

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The Business Week ranking is a ranking of full-time MBAs, and ESSEC is in that.
The Business Week ranking is a ranking of full-time MBAs, and ESSEC is in that.

Sep 11, 2011 12:37

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i am indian student & i want to do mba in germany .canusay costof mba in germany?
i am indian student & i want to do mba in germany .canusay costof mba in germany?

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Sep 11, 2011 01:43

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Hi Malek,

Read this: http://www.find-mba.com/board/19513/2
Hi Malek, Read this: http://www.find-mba.com/board/19513/2

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